Church Heritage Record 637203

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Deptford: St John

Name:

This is the church’s legal name as given by the Church Commissioners.

Deptford: St John
Record Type:

A classification of the current status of the building

Church
Church code:

This is a unique identification number supplied to each church building by the Church Commissioners.

637203
Diocese:

Name of diocese in which the church building is located at the time of entry.

Southwark
Archdeaconry:

Name of archdeaconry in which the church building is located at the time of entry

Lewisham and Greenwich
Parish:

This is the legal name of the parish as given by the Church Commissioners.

Deptford, Saint. John with Holy Trinity

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Statutory Designation Information

Listed Building?

The decision to put a church building on the National Heritage List for England and assign it a listing grade is made by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. The decision is normally based on recommendations made by Historic England, the government’s adviser on the historic environment.

This is a Grade II Listed Building
View more information about this Listed Building on the National Heritage List for England web site
Scheduled Monument?

The decision to schedule a feature (building, monument, archaeological remains, etc.) located within the church building’s precinct or churchyard is made by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. The decision is based on recommendations made by Historic England, the government’s adviser on cultural heritage.

There is no Scheduled Monument within the curtilage or precinct

National Park

National Parks are areas of countryside that include villages and towns, which are protected because of their beautiful countryside, wildlife and cultural heritage. In England, National Parks are designated by Natural England, the government’s advisor on the natural environment.

The church is not in a National Park

Conservation Area

Conservation areas are places of special architectural or historic interest where it is desirable to preserve and enhance the character and appearance of such areas. Conservation Areas are designated by the Local Council.

The church is in the following Conservation Area: St Johns

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Heritage At Risk Status

On Heritage At Risk Register?

The Heritage at Risk programme is run and managed by Historic England, the government’s advisor on cultural heritage. It aims to protect and manage the historic environment, so that the number of ‘at risk’ historic places and sites across England are reduced.

This church is not on the Heritage at Risk Register
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Approximate Date

Approximate Date:

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The CHR records the time period for the building’s predominant fabric as opposed to the date of the earliest fabric or the church’s foundation date.

Victorian/Pre-WWI

Exterior Image

Exterior image of 637203 Deptford St John
Caption:

603242 

Exterior image of 637203 Deptford St John
Description:

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Photograph of the exterior of St John church Deptford taken 26 February 2018
Year / Date:

2011, April 06

2018
Copyright:

Keltek Trust

Dave Kelly
Originator:

Keltek Trust

Dave Kelly

Summary Description

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The church is composed of Kentish ragstone rubble with dressings of Bath stone and the roofs are slated throughout. The polygonal turret near the south west angle of the nave is capped with a stone spire. The tower is of three stages, the lowest of which is disproportionately short. It is supported by stepped angle buttresses and is crowned by a fine stone broach spire surmounted by a weather cock.

Visiting and Facilities

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The church is open for worship.
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Church Website

Church Website:

www.holytrinitylyonsdown.org.uk

http://www.sjht.org.uk

Sources and Further Information

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Dave Kelly (2018) Exterior image of 637203 Deptford St John [Digital Archive/Graphic material]
Exterior image of 637203 Deptford St John
Church of England (2021) A Church Near You https://www.achurchnearyou.com/church/617/ [Digital Archive/Index]
View information on worship and access at this church
Church Buildings Council (2019) Church Bells 8 Bells [Archive/Index]
8 Bells

If you notice any errors with the below outlines of your connected churchyards, please email heritageonline@churchofengland.org with the corrections needed.

This could include information on new churchyards, edits to the boundaries shown, or different land characteristics. 

We are working on adding the consecrated land found within local authority cemeteries, and in time, this data will be shown on the map.

Grid Reference: TQ 373 762

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Administrative Area

Great London Authority:

The administrative area within which the church is located.

Greater London Authority

Location and Setting

This field describes the setting of the church building, i.e. the surroundings in which the church building is experienced, and whether or not it makes a positive or negative contribution to the significance of the building.

The church stands on the border of Deptford and Lewisham and is the focal point of the locality known as St. John's which still retains a considerable sense of identity.

Church Plan

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Ground Plan Description and Dimensions

Ground Plan

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The building consists of nave with aisles, galleried along three walls, a chancel flanked by an organ chamber and vestries, and a tower with spire at the west end of the south aisle. Both the church and new vicarage stand on the same site, but a Welsh Presbyterian chapel separates the church from the hall.

Dimensions

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Footprint of Church buildings (m2):

Small (<199m2)

Medium (200-599m2)

Large (600m-999m2)

Very Large (>1000m2)

835 m2

Description of Archaeology and History

This field aims to record the archaeological potential of the wider area around the building and churchyard, as well as the history of site.

St. John's was built to the designs of P.C. Hardwick who was the grandson of Thomas Hardwick and the son of the architect of the Euston Arch, Hardwick rebuilt the body of the church of St. Mary's, Lambeth, in Middle-Pointed style in 1851-2 and St. John's was built in 1864-5 to a similar early 14th century design. It was constructed through the munificence of Miss A. (later the Baroness) Burdett-Coutts but the tower and spire were not complete until 1873. The peal of bells and the northern boundary wall were added in the following year.

Exterior Description

This field aims to record a written description of the exterior of the church building and the churchyard.

The church is composed of Kentish ragstone rubble with dressings of Bath stone and the roofs are slated throughout. The polygonal turret near the south west angle of the nave is capped with a stone spire. The tower is of three stages, the lowest of which is disproportionately short. It is supported by stepped angle buttresses and is crowned by a fine stone broach spire surmounted by a weather cock. The steeple is lit by three tiers of lucarnes which increase in size and elaboration of detail towards the base; the corner pinnacles have been recently removed. The upper stage of the tower houses the clock face and two tall two-light louvred bell-openings which are heavily moulded with attached shafts, shaft rings, foliate capitals, hoodmoulding and a cinquefoiled circle in the head of each opening. The apex of the gable contains the emblem of St. John in a roundel. North and south aisles are covered by separate gabled roofs and the chancel is slightly lower than the nave. All roofs are steeply pitched. At the east end of the south aisle a separately gabled vestry projects at right angles.

The window tracery is generally correct and uniform, and the type, two-light, trefoil-headed, with a trefoil and two quatrefoils contained by the bifurcating mullion, is used for the majority of the aisle windows. The western light of the north aisle and the eastern lights of the south aisle are single lights, trefoil headed with another trefoil in the head. Almost all windows are hoodmoulded and most rest at cill level on a neat continuous string course. 

The exterior is heavily buttressed and all principal angles are finished with angle-buttresses. The aisles are divided into bays by similar stepped buttresses and the eastern portions of the church are distinguished by the addition of gables to the step-offs.

Architects, Artists and Associated People/Organisations

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Who:
Thomas Ford & Partners
Role:
Architect / Surveyor ICM55
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Who:
P.C. Hardwick
Role:
Architect
From:
01 Jan 1864
To:
31 Dec 1865
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Building Fabric and Features

This field is an index of the building and its major components

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STAINED GLASS (1881-2)
STAINED GLASS (1880)
STAINED GLASS
STAINED GLASS (1889)

Building Materials

This field is an index of the building’s material composition

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Interior Image

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Interior Description

This field aims to record a written description of the interior of the church building.

The overwhelming impression of the irtrior is of spaciousness and the church, reminiscentof the churches of Gilbert Scott, is handsome and fairly well proportioned. 

Prominent are the contemporary west gallery and the somewhat later north and south galleries which are recessed behind the line of the five bay arcades. The side galleries are cheaply built and are supported by half trusses and purlins supported on cast iron stanchions at the front. The west gallery is supported on athree bay wooden arcade with pierced spandrels. Access to the galleries is gained by a stone staircase in the ground floor of the tower, which serves as an entrance lobby, and by a wooden stair within the north west angle of the church. The former stair opens on the gallery by way of a Caernarvon arch.

The arcades have circular capitals and abaci and the bases are octagonal with spurs and water-holding bases to the shafts. The chancel archis of two orders and a hoodmould with stops carved as winged angels. The outer order terminates in sprays of foliage, whilst the inner order is decorated with fillets and rests on kneeled responds with similar capitals and bases.

The sculptured treatment of the east wall is unusual: the centrepiece is a Decalogue painted on metal with a gold ground. This is flanked by two blank arcades of three trefoil headed lights divided by marble colonettes. The lower portion of each light is divided into two panels with diaper patterns whilst the heads contain some intricate floral carving. The Decalogue is surmounted by trefoiled arches which contain carved symbols of the Evangelists and the Sacred Monogram. The whole tripartite composition is finished by a band of ball-flower ornament.

Internal Fixtures and Fittings

This field is an index of the building’s internal, architectural components. This includes its internal spaces and those areas’ fixtures and fittings (building components which are securely fixed to the church or cathedral).

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ALTAR (1865)
BELL (1 of 8)
BELL (2 of 8)
BELL (3 of 8)
BELL (4 of 8)
BELL (5 of 8)
BELL (6 of 8)
BELL (7 of 8)
BELL (8 of 8)
CLOCK (1873)
FONT (OBJECT)
LECTERN (1887)
ORGAN (OBJECT) (1901)
PULPIT (1903)
STALL (1903)

Portable Furnishings and Artworks

This field is an index of the building’s movable, non-fixed furnishings and artworks.

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If you notice any errors with the below outlines of your connected churchyards, please email heritageonline@churchofengland.org with the corrections needed.

This could include information on new churchyards, edits to the boundaries shown, or different land characteristics. 

We are working on adding the consecrated land found within local authority cemeteries, and in time, this data will be shown on the map.

Grid Reference: TQ 373 762

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Ecology

This field aims to record a description of the ecology of the churchyard and surrounding setting.

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Ecological Designations

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The everyday wildlife of burial grounds means much to those who visit and cherish them but many burial grounds are so rich in wildlife that they should be designated and specially protected. Few have the legal protection of a Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI) or, in the case of local authority owned cemeteries, Local Nature Reserve. This makes it even more important that they are cared for and protected by the people looking after them.

Many have a non-statutory designation as a recognition of their importance. These non-statutory designations have a variety of names in different regions including Local Wildlife Site, County Wildlife Site, Site of Importance for Nature Conservation or Site of Nature Conservation Importance (Local Wildlife Site is the most common name). Their selection is based on records of the most important, distinctive and threatened species and habitats within a national, regional and local context. This makes them some of our most valuable wildlife areas.

For example, many burial grounds which are designated as Local Wildlife Sites contain species-rich meadow, rich in wildflowers, native grasses and grassland fungi managed by only occasional mowing plus raking. When this is the case, many animals may be present too, insects, birds, amphibians, reptiles and mammals. This type of grassland was once widespread and has been almost entirely lost from the UK with approximately 3% remaining, so burial grounds with species-rich meadow managed in this way are extremely important for wildlife.

These designations should be considered when planning management or change.

If you think that this or any other burial ground should be designated please contact Caring for God’s Acre (info@cfga.org.uk) to discuss. Many eligible sites have not yet received a designation and can be surveyed and then submitted for consideration.

There are no SSSIs within the curtilage of this Church.

There are no Local nature reserves within the curtilage of this Church.

There are no Local Wildlife sites within the curtilage of this Church.

Evidence of the Presence of Bats

This field aims to record any evidence of the presence of bats in the church building or churchyard.

The church has no evidence of bats

Burial and War Grave Information

This field records basic information about the presence of a churchyard and its use as a burial ground.

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It is unknown whether the churchyard is used for burial. Work in progress - can you help?
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The churchyard does not have war graves.

National Heritage List for England Designations

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There are no Listed Buildings within the curtilage of this Church.

There are no Scheduled Monuments within the curtilage of this Church.

Ancient, Veteran & Notable Trees

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Churchyards are home to fantastic trees, in particular ancient and veteran trees which can be the oldest indication of a sacred space and be features of extraordinary individuality. The UK holds a globally important population of ancient and veteran yew trees of which three-quarters are found in the churchyards of England and Wales.

There are more than 1,000 ancient and veteran yews aged at least 500 years in these churchyards.

To put this in context, the only other part of western Europe with a known significant yew population is Normandy in northern France, where more than 100 ancient or veteran churchyard yews have been recorded.

Burial grounds may contain veteran and ancient trees of other species such as sweet chestnut or small-leaved lime which, whilst maybe not so old as the yews, are still important for wildlife and may be home to many other species.

Specialist advice is needed when managing these wonderful trees. For more information or to seek advice please contact Caring for God’s Acre, The Ancient Yew Group and The Woodland Trust.

If you know of an ancient or veteran tree in a burial ground that is not listed here please contact Caring for God’s Acre.

There are currently no Ancient, Veteran or Notable trees connected to this Church

Churchyard Structures

This field is an index of the churchyard’s components.

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Significance

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Significance is the whole set of reasons why people value a church, whether as a place for worship and mission, as an historic building that is part of the national heritage, as a focus for the local community, as a familiar landmark or for any other reasons.

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Church Renewables

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Solar PV Panels:

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No
Solar Thermal Panels:
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No
Bio Mass:
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No
Air Source Heat Pump:
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No
Ground Source Heat Pump:
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No
Wind Turbine:
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No
EV Car Charging:
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Unknown

Species Summary

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All of the species listed below have been recorded in close proximity to the Church . A few species which are particularly threatened and affected by disturbance may not be listed here because their exact location cannot be shared.

NOTE: Be aware that this dataset is growing, and the species totals may change once the National Biodiversity Network has added further records. Species may be present but not recorded and still await discovery.

CategoryTotal species recorded to date
TOTAL NUMBER OF SPECIES RECORDED 49
Total number of animal species 14
Total number of plant species 35
Total number of mammal species 2
Total number of birds 11
Total number of amphibian and reptile species 0
Total number of invertebrate species 0
Total number of fungi species 0
Total number of mosses and liverworts (bryophytes) 0
Total number of ferns 0
Total number of flowering plants 35
Total number of Gymnosperm and Ginkgo 0

Caring for God’s Acre is a conservation charity working to support groups and individuals to investigate, care for, and enjoy the wildlife and heritage treasures found within churchyards and other burial grounds. Look on their website for information and advice and please contact their staff directly. They can help you manage this churchyard for people and wildlife.

To learn more about all of the species recorded against this church, go to the Burial Ground Portal within the NBN Atlas. You can check the spread of records through the years, discovering what has been recorded and when, plus what discoveries might remain to be uncovered.

‘Seek Advice’ Species

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If any of the following species have been seen close to the Church, it is important to seek advice from an expert. You will need to know if they are present now, and to follow expert recommendations when planning works. All of these species have specific legal protection as a recognition of their rarity. All of them are rare or becoming increasingly endangered, so it is important to ensure that management and other works do not adversely affect them. In addition, there may be things you can do to help these special species. N.B. Swift and House Martin do not have specific legal protection but are included, as roof repair works often impact breeding swifts and house martins which is against the law.

This is not a complete list of protected species, there are many more, but these are ones that are more likely to be found. All wild birds, their nests and eggs are also protected by law, as are all bats and veteran trees. In a few cases, species are considered particularly prone to disturbance or destruction by people, so the exact location of where they were recorded is not publicly available but can be requested. These ‘blurred’ records are included here, and the accuracy is to 1km. This means that the species has been recorded in close proximity to the Church, or a maximum of 1km away from it. As these ‘blurred’ species are quite mobile, there is a strong likelihood that they can occur close to the Church. To learn about these special species, use the link provided for each species in the table below

One important species which is not included here is the Peregrine Falcon. This is protected and advice should be sought if peregrines are nesting on a church or cathedral. Peregrine records are ‘blurred’ to 10km, hence the decision not to include records here. Remember too that species not seriously threatened nationally may still be at risk in your region and be sensitive to works. You should check with local experts about this. You may also need to seek advice about invasive species, such as Japanese knotweed and aquatics colonising streams or pools, which can spread in churchyards.

N.B. If a species is not recorded this does not indicate absence. It is always good practice to survey.

Common nameScientific nameHas this species been recorded yet?Is it a ‘blurred’ species? Last recorded sighting
Great Crested Newt
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Triturus cristatusNoNoNone
Natterjack Toad
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Epidalea calamitaNoNoNone
Sand Lizard
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Lacerta agilisNoNoNone
Common Lizard
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Zootoca viviparaNoNoNone
Adder
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Vipera berusNoNoNone
Grass Snake
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Natrix helveticaNoNoNone
Smooth Snake
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Coronella austriacaNoNoNone
Slow-worm
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Anguis fragilisNoNoNone
Eurasian Red Squirrel
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Sciurus vulgarisNoNoNone
Eurasian Badger
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Meles melesNoYesNone
Hazel Dormouse
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Muscardinus avellanariusNoNoNone
Swift
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Apus apusNoNoNone
House Martin
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Delichon urbicumNoNoNone
Bat
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ChiropteraYesYes2014

Caring for God’s Acre can help and support you in looking after the biodiversity present in this special place. If you know that any of these species occur close to the Church and are not recorded here, please contact Caring for God’s Acre with details (info@cfga.org.uk).

To find out more about these and other species recorded against this Church, go to the Burial Ground Portal within the NBN Atlas.

The church was the centre of many people’s lives and remains a guide to their cares and concerns. Glimpses into those lives have often come down to us in the stories we heard as children or old photographs discovered in tattered shoe boxes. Perhaps your ancestors even made it into local legend following some fantastic event? You can choose to share those memories with others and record them for future generations on this Forum.

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