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St John the Evangelist (old church): Great Stanmore

Name:

This is the church’s legal name as given by the Church Commissioners.

St John the Evangelist (old church): Great Stanmore
Record Type:

A classification of the current status of the building

Ruin
Church code:

This is a unique identification number supplied to each church building by the Church Commissioners.

Diocese:

Name of diocese in which the church building is located at the time of entry.

London
Archdeaconry:

Name of archdeaconry in which the church building is located at the time of entry

Northolt
Parish:

This is the legal name of the parish as given by the Church Commissioners.

Great Stanmore

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Statutory Designation Information

Listed Building?

The decision to put a church building on the National Heritage List for England and assign it a listing grade is made by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. The decision is normally based on recommendations made by Historic England, the government’s adviser on the historic environment.

This is a Grade II* Listed Building
View more information about this Listed Building on the National Heritage List for England web site
Scheduled Monument?

The decision to schedule a feature (building, monument, archaeological remains, etc.) located within the church building’s precinct or churchyard is made by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. The decision is based on recommendations made by Historic England, the government’s adviser on cultural heritage.

There is no Scheduled Monument within the curtilage or precinct

National Park

National Parks are areas of countryside that include villages and towns, which are protected because of their beautiful countryside, wildlife and cultural heritage. In England, National Parks are designated by Natural England, the government’s advisor on the natural environment.

The church is not in a National Park

Conservation Area

Conservation areas are places of special architectural or historic interest where it is desirable to preserve and enhance the character and appearance of such areas. Conservation Areas are designated by the Local Council.

The church is in the following Conservation Area: Old Church Lane

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Heritage At Risk Status

On Heritage At Risk Register?

The Heritage at Risk programme is run and managed by Historic England, the government’s advisor on cultural heritage. It aims to protect and manage the historic environment, so that the number of ‘at risk’ historic places and sites across England are reduced.

This church is on the Heritage at Risk Register (data verified 14 Nov 2024)
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Approximate Date

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The CHR records the time period for the building’s predominant fabric as opposed to the date of the earliest fabric or the church’s foundation date.

Post Medieval

Exterior Image

 Exterior image of St John the Evangelist, Great Stanmore  (ruins of old church)
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Exterior image of St John the Evangelist, Great Stanmore (ruins of old church)
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Photograph of the exterior of St John the Evangelist, Great Stanmore (ruins of old church)
Year / Date:

2011, April 06

2011, July 03
Copyright:

Keltek Trust

Nigel Cox
Originator:

Keltek Trust

Nigel Cox

Summary Description

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The “Old Church” of Great Stanmore is located towards the western edge of the old village, at a point where rural Middlesex begins as one travels out of London, but now with a suburban feel. This most attractive, important and well-conserved ruin enjoys a tranquil location a stones throw to the west of its replacement, the “New Church” of 1849, within a very large and well-kept churchyard full of mature trees and monuments of quality. The church was built in 1632 to replace the medieval parish church.

Visiting and Facilities

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The church is closed for worship.
Date closed for worship: Unknown
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Church Website

Church Website:

www.holytrinitylyonsdown.org.uk

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Sources and Further Information

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James Miles (2018) Closed Churches [Digital Archive/Data]
Nigel Cox (2011, July 03) Exterior image of St John the Evangelist, Great Stanmore (ruins of old church) [Digital Archive/Graphic material]
 Exterior image of St John the Evangelist, Great Stanmore  (ruins of old church)

If you notice any errors with the below outlines of your connected churchyards, please email heritageonline@churchofengland.org with the corrections needed.

This could include information on new churchyards, edits to the boundaries shown, or different land characteristics. 

We are working on adding the consecrated land found within local authority cemeteries, and in time, this data will be shown on the map.

Grid Reference: TQ 166 921

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Administrative Area

Great London Authority:

The administrative area within which the church is located.

Greater London Authority

Location and Setting

This field describes the setting of the church building, i.e. the surroundings in which the church building is experienced, and whether or not it makes a positive or negative contribution to the significance of the building.

located towards the western edge of the old village, at a point where rural Middlesex begins as one travels out of London, but now with a suburban feel.  This most attractive, important and well-conserved ruin enjoys a tranquil location a stones throw to the west of its replacement, the “New Church” of 1849, within a very large and well-kept churchyard full of mature trees and monuments of quality. 

There are several Grade II listed buildings in the immediate area of Old Church Lane to the east and south of the church, including remnants of the 17th century tithe barn (SMR 220815) which was part of Great Stanmore Manor after its relocation here in the late 16th century.  There may be further underground remains of the Manor buildings surviving under the 1930’s residential development which now characterises the area. 

Church Plan

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Ground Plan Description and Dimensions

Ground Plan

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4-bay nave and chancel in one, north-west projection, west tower.

Dimensions

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Chancel and nave 21m (64 feet) x 11.8m (36 feet).

Footprint of Church buildings (m2):

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Medium (200-599m2)

Large (600m-999m2)

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Description of Archaeology and History

This field aims to record the archaeological potential of the wider area around the building and churchyard, as well as the history of site.

The archaeological potential of the churchyard was emphasised by the discovery of 11th–13th century settlement remains and a moated enclosure adjacent to the southern and western edge of the churchyard during the development of the site of RAF Stanmore in 2000. Until 1938 this was the site of Stanmore Park Mansion House.  The present Rectory Lane, which now ends along the south side of the churchyard, represents the line of the medieval road, which may have been the limit of settlement in this direction before the Old Church was built. 

The church was built in 1632 to replace the medieval parish church, which was apparently situated further to the south (corner of Old Church Lane and Wolverton Lane) away from the village and thus inconveniently located for the parishioners. The building was commissioned by Sir John Wolstenholme, whose family remained patrons of the church until the second relocation to the adjacent “new” church in 1849. 

Brick buttresses were added to the tower in an apparent attempt to combat subsidence.  A brick extension was built onto the north-west side of the nave in the 18th century, which after the relocation in 1849 was converted into the mausoleum for the Earl of Aberdeen (Prime Minister 1852-55), who lived at nearby Bentley Priory.

The interior was quickly filled with superb monuments to the Wolstenholme, Abercorn/Aberdeen and other leading families, reflecting the status of Stanmore at this time.  Several of the larger monuments were removed to the new church along with some of the furnishings and fittings, including some which were by now making their second move.

The church was earmarked for demolition in 1851 and the roof and much of the south wall was removed, however further destruction was prevented by a group of local people, and it continued in use as a Mausoleum. The building became a picturesque ivy-covered ruin which slowly deteriorated to a point where action was necessary. In 1991 English Heritage and several other organisations stepped in to support the locally based Great Stanmore Old Church Working Group with financial assistance to consolidate the ruin and make it safe for visitors to enjoy.  

Exterior Description

This field aims to record a written description of the exterior of the church building and the churchyard.

Externally the church is of a pleasing and dignified simplicity, a “brick box” now open to the sky, the varying height of the ruined walls softening what would originally have been a very austere vista.  The relatively intact west tower looms over the shell of the main body of the church, and is visible as a local landmark from some distance. 

The east wall of the church is pierced by a huge and finely detailed Venetian window, an advanced feature for its time and the dominating architectural feature.  The gable above this window has collapsed above the stone string-course which runs around the building at just below wall-plate height.  There is a row of white sandstone memorial tablets (dated 1745-55) fastened into the wall under the window.

The north wall has survived to its full height, by contrast with the south wall which is so degraded that the number and form of the windows are difficult to ascertain, though there appear to have been at least three rectangular windows. There are four windows in the north wall, all with well-preserved and probably original oak frames. They are alternately wide round-headed recesses within which small round-headed two-lights were inset (they are now blocked), and tall rectangular windows with a transom. The corners of the building have alternating quoins in brick.   

The tower is supported by no less than five buttresses, of which the two diagonal buttresses are bonded in and appear to be original.  These have two steep weatherings and reach to the string course under the belfry stage.  The later buttresses are a stage lower, much thicker and have three shallow weatherings.  They are also executed in English bond, and may have been added only a short time later.

The tower itself is of three stages defined by stone drip-courses.  The upper belfry stage of the tower has double arch-headed shuttered openings in each face, executed in limestone which has eroded badly.  The crenellated parapet above this has partly collapsed.  The stair tower protrudes from the north-east corner and very slightly above the parapet.  The stage below has single arch-headed windows in each external face, also with limestone dressings.  There is also one such window directly above the doorway in the lower stage, but with an oak frame. 

Access to the church was via narrow doors at each end of the south wall, the doorway with Banded Surround at the west end is now used for access.  The fine eastern doorway has a square head and jambs of Portland stone, again simple but finely detailed under a label without stops.

 

Architects, Artists and Associated People/Organisations

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Who:
W.D. Caroe & Partners
Role:
Architect / Surveyor ICM55
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Building Fabric and Features

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Building Materials

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BATH STONE (Unknown)
BRICK (17th Century)
PORTLAND STONE (Unknown)
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Interior Image

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Interior Description

This field aims to record a written description of the interior of the church building.

the tower arch has a depressed head turned in three orders of moulded brick. The inner west wall and gable of the nave is well preserved above this and preserves many structural details. The steep roof-line reaching to the underside of the belfry openings is clear, as well as the line of the wall-plate below which the scar from a lightly domed ceiling can still be seen. There was access from the loft space to the tower through a small square-headed doorway. Centrally placed below this is a rectangular niche in the wall, the purpose of which is unclear. There are also sockets lower down in this wall, probably related to the galleries inserted in the 18th century.

The floor was renewed with stone flags in the restoration of 1991-3, with a single step up demarcating the chancel.  Many of the wall-mounted monuments were removed to the “new” church in 1850 or placed within the tower, which has left scars in the walls where they were removed, especially in the chancel walls. Several monuments were thereafter set into the floor, the most prominent being the elaborate Gothic tomb with gabled roof standing roughly centrally in the nave, erected in 1867 by the Hollond family.

Internal Fixtures and Fittings

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FONT (OBJECT) (1640)
PAINTING (19th Century)

Portable Furnishings and Artworks

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If you notice any errors with the below outlines of your connected churchyards, please email heritageonline@churchofengland.org with the corrections needed.

This could include information on new churchyards, edits to the boundaries shown, or different land characteristics. 

We are working on adding the consecrated land found within local authority cemeteries, and in time, this data will be shown on the map.

Grid Reference: TQ 166 921

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Ecology

This field aims to record a description of the ecology of the churchyard and surrounding setting.

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Ecological Designations

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The everyday wildlife of burial grounds means much to those who visit and cherish them but many burial grounds are so rich in wildlife that they should be designated and specially protected. Few have the legal protection of a Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI) or, in the case of local authority owned cemeteries, Local Nature Reserve. This makes it even more important that they are cared for and protected by the people looking after them.

Many have a non-statutory designation as a recognition of their importance. These non-statutory designations have a variety of names in different regions including Local Wildlife Site, County Wildlife Site, Site of Importance for Nature Conservation or Site of Nature Conservation Importance (Local Wildlife Site is the most common name). Their selection is based on records of the most important, distinctive and threatened species and habitats within a national, regional and local context. This makes them some of our most valuable wildlife areas.

For example, many burial grounds which are designated as Local Wildlife Sites contain species-rich meadow, rich in wildflowers, native grasses and grassland fungi managed by only occasional mowing plus raking. When this is the case, many animals may be present too, insects, birds, amphibians, reptiles and mammals. This type of grassland was once widespread and has been almost entirely lost from the UK with approximately 3% remaining, so burial grounds with species-rich meadow managed in this way are extremely important for wildlife.

These designations should be considered when planning management or change.

If you think that this or any other burial ground should be designated please contact Caring for God’s Acre (info@cfga.org.uk) to discuss. Many eligible sites have not yet received a designation and can be surveyed and then submitted for consideration.

There are no SSSIs within the curtilage of this Ruin.

There are no Local nature reserves within the curtilage of this Ruin.

There are no Local Wildlife sites within the curtilage of this Ruin.

Evidence of the Presence of Bats

This field aims to record any evidence of the presence of bats in the church building or churchyard.

The church has no evidence of bats

Burial and War Grave Information

This field records basic information about the presence of a churchyard and its use as a burial ground.

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It is unknown whether the churchyard has been used for burial. Work in progress - can you help?
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It is unknown whether the churchyard is used for burial. Work in progress - can you help?
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The churchyard does not have war graves.

National Heritage List for England Designations

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There are no Listed Buildings within the curtilage of this Ruin.

There are no Scheduled Monuments within the curtilage of this Ruin.

Ancient, Veteran & Notable Trees

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Churchyards are home to fantastic trees, in particular ancient and veteran trees which can be the oldest indication of a sacred space and be features of extraordinary individuality. The UK holds a globally important population of ancient and veteran yew trees of which three-quarters are found in the churchyards of England and Wales.

There are more than 1,000 ancient and veteran yews aged at least 500 years in these churchyards.

To put this in context, the only other part of western Europe with a known significant yew population is Normandy in northern France, where more than 100 ancient or veteran churchyard yews have been recorded.

Burial grounds may contain veteran and ancient trees of other species such as sweet chestnut or small-leaved lime which, whilst maybe not so old as the yews, are still important for wildlife and may be home to many other species.

Specialist advice is needed when managing these wonderful trees. For more information or to seek advice please contact Caring for God’s Acre, The Ancient Yew Group and The Woodland Trust.

If you know of an ancient or veteran tree in a burial ground that is not listed here please contact Caring for God’s Acre.

There are currently no Ancient, Veteran or Notable trees connected to this Ruin

Churchyard Structures

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Significance

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Church Renewables

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Bio Mass:
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Air Source Heat Pump:
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Species Summary

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All of the species listed below have been recorded in close proximity to the Ruin . A few species which are particularly threatened and affected by disturbance may not be listed here because their exact location cannot be shared.

NOTE: Be aware that this dataset is growing, and the species totals may change once the National Biodiversity Network has added further records. Species may be present but not recorded and still await discovery.

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Caring for God’s Acre is a conservation charity working to support groups and individuals to investigate, care for, and enjoy the wildlife and heritage treasures found within churchyards and other burial grounds. Look on their website for information and advice and please contact their staff directly. They can help you manage this churchyard for people and wildlife.

To learn more about all of the species recorded against this church, go to the Burial Ground Portal within the NBN Atlas. You can check the spread of records through the years, discovering what has been recorded and when, plus what discoveries might remain to be uncovered.

‘Seek Advice’ Species

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If any of the following species have been seen close to the Ruin, it is important to seek advice from an expert. You will need to know if they are present now, and to follow expert recommendations when planning works. All of these species have specific legal protection as a recognition of their rarity. All of them are rare or becoming increasingly endangered, so it is important to ensure that management and other works do not adversely affect them. In addition, there may be things you can do to help these special species. N.B. Swift and House Martin do not have specific legal protection but are included, as roof repair works often impact breeding swifts and house martins which is against the law.

This is not a complete list of protected species, there are many more, but these are ones that are more likely to be found. All wild birds, their nests and eggs are also protected by law, as are all bats and veteran trees. In a few cases, species are considered particularly prone to disturbance or destruction by people, so the exact location of where they were recorded is not publicly available but can be requested. These ‘blurred’ records are included here, and the accuracy is to 1km. This means that the species has been recorded in close proximity to the Ruin, or a maximum of 1km away from it. As these ‘blurred’ species are quite mobile, there is a strong likelihood that they can occur close to the Ruin. To learn about these special species, use the link provided for each species in the table below

One important species which is not included here is the Peregrine Falcon. This is protected and advice should be sought if peregrines are nesting on a church or cathedral. Peregrine records are ‘blurred’ to 10km, hence the decision not to include records here. Remember too that species not seriously threatened nationally may still be at risk in your region and be sensitive to works. You should check with local experts about this. You may also need to seek advice about invasive species, such as Japanese knotweed and aquatics colonising streams or pools, which can spread in churchyards.

N.B. If a species is not recorded this does not indicate absence. It is always good practice to survey.

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Caring for God’s Acre can help and support you in looking after the biodiversity present in this special place. If you know that any of these species occur close to the Ruin and are not recorded here, please contact Caring for God’s Acre with details (info@cfga.org.uk).

To find out more about these and other species recorded against this Ruin, go to the Burial Ground Portal within the NBN Atlas.

The church was the centre of many people’s lives and remains a guide to their cares and concerns. Glimpses into those lives have often come down to us in the stories we heard as children or old photographs discovered in tattered shoe boxes. Perhaps your ancestors even made it into local legend following some fantastic event? You can choose to share those memories with others and record them for future generations on this Forum.

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